Jo Havemann started a new podcast "Conversations.

Interestingly several interviews are with Fediverse Friends. I recognize:
* Danny Chan @danwchan talks about his community biolab or for biology.

* The episode with Dasapta Erwin Irawan @dasaptaerwin is about the Indonesian preprint repositories, AfricAXiv & DORA.

* Librarian Lambert Heller
@Lambo speaks about the role of libraries in open science.

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@Lambo I like the term "Libraries 2.0". showing my age.

As a person who coined this, do you have any idea why Libraries/Science 2.0 never got of the ground? Or, less "aged": .

It would have the advantage over of not helping the surveillance of science selling themselves as an Open Science program. And it would include stuff like , which is orthogonal to , it is also important for closed data and helpful in promoting collaboration/interaction.

Hey Victor, super interesting question. 🙏 My concern over 2.0: It puts too much focus on interaction as a feature, regardless of who interacts with whatever. Interactivity is a given, by now. Instead, I suggest, let's focus on questions of power & ownership. How do we make sure that research results / communications are not exploited? How can the means of data storage, comms etc rather be controlled by the community of those working in research & infrastructure?

@Lambo Scientists of the World, seize the means of production and communication!! How do we de-stigmatize the term for that? 😉

Not sure interactivity is a given. Maybe in the open science bubble, but not in my field of study. None of my European colleagues is even on social media. Much of the data is closed (to be fair, that is because governments want to make money with meteorological data, not because of my colleagues themselves).

also does not include this focus.

@VictorVenema Fair enough, yes. In 2011 @hauschke & me tried to coin "open government data" for things like that, in Germany. All kinds of data produced / gathered by government funded agencies (which extends beyond research) should be open by default, right?

@Lambo I agree. Maybe the new German government in theory as well.

Such bigger aims may sometimes be easier to achieve than small ones. Meteorologists have been fighting to be allowed to open their data for ages, but commercial weather services have been fighting that to prop up their artificial market. The German weather service doing their public job was attacked as unfair competition.

We managed to beat them by joining a larger coalition and freeing all geo-data.


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